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Zune to iPod cable and pinouts Print E-mail
Written by Kostas Tzounopoulos   
Friday, 02 March 2007
The guys at Zuney.net forum have done a good jod on trying to find the pin schematic of the Zune connector. This can be used for unofficial accessories and DIY solutions. But they have set a more advanced goal: Zune to iPod cable. This could allow Zune to connect to iPod accessories and vice-versa!...

The Zune pinouts found so far are:

Pin 01 - USB 5VDC(+) (common with Pins 2,3)
Pin 02 - 5VDC(+) (common with pins 1,3)
Pin 03 - 5VDC(+) (common with pins 1,2)
Pin 04 - Unknown (used on travel remote) 1.75 VDC (+)
Pin 05 - Unknown (used on travel remote) 1.75 VDC (+)
Pin 06 -
Pin 07 -
Pin 08 -
Pin 09 - Video (+)
Pin 10 -
Pin 11 -
Pin 12 -
Pin 13 - Audio L (+) (also audio on travel remote)
Pin 14 - Audio R (+) (Also audio on travel remote)
Pin 15 -
Pin 16 -
Pin 17 - Unknown (used on travel remote) these are likely our trigger
Pin 18 - Unknown (used on travel remote) these are likely our trigger
Pin 19 - Ground (common with Pins 22,23,24,and shield)
Pin 20 - USB Data (-)
Pin 21 - USB Data (+)
Pin 22 - USB Ground (common with Pins 19,23,24,and shield)
Pin 23 - Ground (common with Pins 22,19,24,and shield)
Pin 24 - Ground (common with Pins 22,23,19,and shield)

Trigger: Used when an accessory gets connected to inform Zune.

Here are some info on how Zune can activate audio. This is taken from the Zune's audio chipset  Wolfram WM8978 manual.

Page 73:

Wolfram WM8978

 

pages 85-87:
Wolfram WM8978
Wolfram WM8978
Wolfram WM8978
Wolfram 8978

So the thread stops somewhere there looking for the "trigger" to enable the audio out from Zune. But Rob (admin of Zuney.net) goes one step further:

[...] I have also found the command protocols that the remotes on iPod devices use such as play, skip track etc. If would be very hard work but this could potentially be converted so that the iPod accessory sends out the signal to play or w/e then it is converted into the Zune string for that command.

I don't know how to go about this at present but yeah just another idea for the pot.

I'm sure lots of people are interested in learning Zune's pinouts. If these guys come up witha Zune-to-iPod cable, it would be perfect. A chip may have to be used for fully converting the signals but the audio/video analog signals have to be the same for both Zune and iPod. Same accessories for both Zune and iPod? Anyone interested? 

Zune to iPod cable

Read the forum thread about pinouts.
Join the Zune-to-iPod cable project. (Only for registered members)

Related articles:
Zune Chipset details 

Comments (9)Add Comment
Nice work on the cables
written by Zune MAX, March 04, 2007
This is great stuff here guys. I'm glad to see people working on a cable like this. Lets hope it works soon.
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Element
written by David, March 07, 2007
Yeah I am defiantly interested my honda element has a ipod connect on it that i would love to start using for my zune
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i'm interested
written by travis, April 12, 2007
i'm interested, please continue on your research
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Make it happen Boys!
written by Jake, September 01, 2007
Wow, this is awesome. Having a conversion chip for commands would be great! Especially since i have a JVC radio i bought specifically for running the iPod that got jacked from me by a local robin hood turd. Problem is, I'm not rich.. anyway, enabling me to use an adapter cable with my new zune to my old radio would be great
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written by Zune Rocks!, September 13, 2007
What happened to Zuney.net? The website isnt working
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written by Zune-Online.com, September 13, 2007
@ Zune Rocks! : What happened to Zuney.net is a good question. I have no idea.
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Thats freakin awesome
written by Stu, November 16, 2007
How long boys I can't wait much longer! I wish I could help.
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has nobody looked into a Zune Docking station ?
written by copa, November 17, 2007
Hi guys
is the audio on the pins 13 & 14 really not working?

Sorry if it is a stupid question:
On the ordinary headphone jack it is as following:
If I unplug and replug my headphone connector, I have no sound until is START and STOP the music.
Maybe it is the same for pin 13 & 14 ?

On the official ZUNE DOCKING STATION from M$ for 40$ there is an audio and video out.
Can nobody have a look into it, to see what pins are used here ?

(this accessory is hard to get here in germany, and I already have a third party Docking station where I would like to add the Audio out)
http://www.amazon.de/System-S-Cradle-Docking-Station-Zune/dp/B000NZSJOQ

copa
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written by avatar oyunları, May 23, 2009
The irony here is spending money on an M$ product, and losing one out of two of the features you bought it for. You'd now have half cocked GUI's (not really a slate at the WPS creators, they do a great job with what resources they have available to them) and who knows really, if/when the various people who code, will get the wi-fi up and running without the crutches.
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